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another time when i wish we could talk about the fireback question. the debate continues online at cnn.com/crossfire as well as facebook ask twitter. from the left i'm stephanie cutter. >> from the right, i'm newt gingrich. join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, preventing another tragedy. >> the greatest protection ultimately would be an armed presence in the school. >> as we approach the one-year anniversary of the tragedy at newtown, what can be done to prevent future sandy hooks? >> plus, vice president joe biden in china. can he stop what our allies see as alarming aggression in the east? >> this is a consequential relationship that will affect the course of the 21st century. >> new incriminating allegations about embattled toronto mayor rob ford. >> yes, i have smoked crack cocaine.
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>> this is something of a difficult show. in just a moment we will play for you some selected excerpts from the 911 call from the day that adam lanza killed 20 children and six educators at sandy hook elementary school. this will be the first time you will hear these tapes on cnn. i can tell you we came to this decision after hours of discussion and consideration of the context of the news. afterwards, we'll hear from a former congressman who had been tasked with finding a way to better protect our children. but first, this report from deborah. we should warn you, what you're about to hear could be disturbing. >> reporter: the first call came from the school secretary moments after class started. it gives insight into how quickly adam lanza was able to get into the secured building.
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>> what's the location of the emergency? >> i think there is somebody shooting in here. in sandy hook school. >> what makes you think that? >> because somebody has a gun. i saw glimpse of somebody running down hallway. they're still running. they're still shooting. sandy hook school please. >> seven 911 calls were released. they captured the fear and quiet urgency and lack of panic of those inside and at the police dispatch. one woman shot in the foot crawled into a classroom where several children hid near a bookcase. >> are you safe right now? >> i think my classroom door is not locked. ? s there anyone that can lock it without -- being safe? >> no. >> just stay where you are. >> there are children in this room too. >> try to apply pressure, okay? we have people coming, okay? >> uh-huh. >> all right. >> is there any other teacher in there with you or just students?
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>> no. two other adults in the room with me. >> okay. are they right next to you? where are they in the room? >> no. they're over on the other side of the book shelf. >> all right. are you okay right now? >> for now hopefully. >> according to a report by the state's attorney, that teacher and the students in the classroom survived. it was custodian rick thorne in a different part of the school who became the eyes and ears for a police dispatcher. >> down the corridor. >> i want to you take cover. jen? get the sergeant. all right. get everybody you can going down there. >> all right. let me get some information from you. what makes you think that? >> the front glass is all shot out. it kept going on. it is still happening. >> what about the students in the front of the building? >> everything is lock up as far as i know.
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i'm not in the front. >> you're in lovingdown? >> they're in lockdown. i keep hearing shooting. i keep hearing popping. >> guys, we got a shooting at the sandy hook elementary school in newtown. >> at one point the custodian still on the phone with the dispatcher is confronted by responsibling police officers. after urge enly identifies himself, he relays information between those officers and the 911 dispatcher. >> i'm on the phone with dispatch. victims in the building. >> how many? two down. >> on scene, police officers quickly understand the scope of the tragedy. >> call the state police, okay? >> state police have been notified. >> they've been notified. >> what becomes clear from listening to the tapes, and exactly how they played out is that there was a certain calmness. a lot of urgency, yes, there was
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a fear, a little bit of panic but for the most part, everybody did what they needed to do to try to get where they needed so they can save as many people in that building. that is very clear from listening to these tapes. jake? >> these are just a pouring of the 911 call that were released today because of the freedom of information act that they have in connecticut. there are other calls as well that we do not have, right? >> we don't have those. the ones that were made to the connecticut state police, those have not been released. those are in the custody of that police department of it is not clear whether in fact those calls will ever be released. right now, these were the ones that were the focus of the freel of information sxakt those are the ones released a total of seven for about 25 minutes. and you can hear as everybody was trying to get on the same page to make sure that the people in that school get the help they needed, jake. >> thank you, deborah.
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>> there is been a lot of debate both inside cnn and-on, i'm sure, at other media organizations as to whether they should have been released at all. joining me now, cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey tubin and mark garrigos. was it a mistake to release those? >> i'm paid as a cnn analyst. i think it was the wrong thing for the state to release them. i think it is the wrong thing for cnn to broadcast them. i don't see why, other than pure titillation. i don't see any public interest served by this whatsoever and i think it increases the amount of heart ache for the victim of this. i don't see how anybody can justify the releasing of this let alone the broadcasting of this. to my mind, it is nothing but
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pure unadultated titillation. >> we should point out the judge who ordered the release of the tapes, he said that they're useful in order to improve law enforcement reactions, and quote, delaying the release of the audio recordings, particularly where the legal joifgs to keep them confidential is lacking, only serves to fuel speculation about and undermine confidence in our law enforcement officials. is that judge wrong? >> that shows with you all due respect to that judge, that shows you how inane this is. there is nothing that he just said, nothing in that statement that any rational human would say, okay, right. i listened to those tapes and that gave me confidence in law enforcement. seriously? that doesn't pass the straight face test. it is somebody who just cowed to public opinion, i suppose. and titillation in letting it out and did not want to get
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appealed. there is no reason, no plausible reason why those tapes, playing those tapes which we just heard gave me any further confidence or anybody else in law enforcement or shed the light on law enforcement. that's ludicrous. >> jeffrey, some families were again the release of the tape. one said the release will create a new layer of pain for many in the newtown communicate. hearing those calls takes us back to a day of horror and tragedy. by releasing the tape, do you think, that we're forcing them to relive this horror for our own interests or for what mark describes as our own titillation? >> no, i don't. i would like to draw a distinction between two issues. first i think the judge was completely correct to disclose the tapes. this was a major national event. it is also the law in connecticut that 911 tapes get
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released. the importance of this issue, this story was the biggest mass murder in the united states since 9/11. it had enormous political ill reply indications. there is a public interest in the public knowing as much as possible about it. so i think the judge was clearly correct. i think it is a closer call about news media. i can see why different people at cnn have made different judgments here. i'm not sure how much this adds to the overall story but i definitely think this is a decision for journalists to make. not for the government to make about what gets broadcast and what doesn't. >> can i jump in on that? in this era of blogging and the internet, there is no more -- these distinctions where journalists are at legitimate news net works, wrestling with these issues. it is nonsense. there is always somebody who will put it on to the internet
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and then it will go viral. it will go into youtube. those kinds of decisions. they're almost quaint or an akronistic. they don't exist anymore. >> if the judge had not released the tape, they would not be anywhere. >> that's my point. he never should have released them. because the second point that you make, jeff, that somebody is going on wrestle with the decision in the journalistic communicate, that's a nonissue. you may wrestle with it. cnn may wrestle with it but some dirt bag on the internet will always take the position. >> yes. but we're not -- i don't want our decisions to be determined by what some dirt bag on the internet does. we can't control dirt bags on the internet. we can control cnn. and we can make reasoned journalistic decisions about what to broadcast and what not. and i think this shows the decision to run it is understandable. anderson cooper is not going on
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run it. that's understandable, too. i would probably lean on the side of not running it but in any case, those are decisions for journalists to make. i don't like the idea of government telling the public what it can know and cannot know. by the large, the business of government should be public, not private. >> jeff, tapes from other mass shootings have been released. columbine, aurora, the tapes from the virginia tech massacre have be been released. i know this is a state by state legal process. do you think there should be one standard nationwide? >> i don't think. so i think different communities can make different judgments. i guess it is part of my journalistic dna. i would favor more disclosure rather than less but i don't like the idea of a case by case judgment where victims' families get on decide what is news and what's not.
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i can't imagine their pain. i can't imagine what it is like to be in their shoes. but we have a different job to do. and it is true that we can learn something about how to respond to these sorts of tragedies by hearing how the government responded. as far as i can tell here, the 9/11 operators, the police did as good a job as they could. but that's something that we can learn. but only if we have access to the evidence. >> all right. thank you so much. shortly after the newtown tragedy, the national rifle association funded a new study to review school security. it was led by a former congressman and dea administrator named asa hutchison. they recommended armed guards as part of the solutions to keeping schools safer. i a few hours ago i spoke to him and asked if armed guards was a viable solution. >> our guards are a part of the solution and certainly, every school needs to do a security
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plan. they need to do an assessment. but the greatest protection would be an armed presence in the school. the preference would be a school resource officer. someone who has that type of police training and background. after >> piers: hook elementary, everybody understands it could happen anywhere and this is the first time such a tragedy happens in an elementary school. the safety has to move that direction. so one was an armed presence. that's not the exclusive one. not the exclusive recommended. it won't solve every problem. you need other security measures in place. >> sure. but i think one of the issues, especially in the last few week when more information has come forward about adam lanza showing how emotionally troubled he was, people like that who have severe mental problems and emotional problems should not be able to
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get guns. do you disagree with that? >> i certainly agree that we need to make sure a firearm is not sold to someone who is a convicted felon or been adjudicated mentally ill. in adam lanza's case, even though he had mental problems, we're not going to eliminate access to firearms in every circumstance. you have that unfortunate incident with an assailan in a school. you have to have that protection. you need greater resources in the schools that address the challenge of a bully in the school. of the challenge of identifying those with mental illnesses and getting the counsellors support for them. >> i find that answer a little disappointing because i feel people with severe emotional problems, even if they haven't been ajad indicated, should not
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be able to get guns. it is a risk to themselves and to society. i'm not talking about greater gun control infringing on the rights of law-abiding citizens who don't have emotional problems. but those individuals seem to be the ones who are causing, wreaking this havoc. whether it is at l.a.x. or aurora or virginia tech. i don't understand why people who support gun rights, such as yourself, aren't doing more to keep guns out of the hands of those people who have severe emotional problems, so that we as a society are safer. >> certainly, their first standard is those that are adjudicated mentally ill. and one we don't have all of those records put into our national database to keep someone from obtaining a firearm because the records aren't complete. that needs to be improved. secondly, we as a society need to address the problem of mental illness and how we can identify that.
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and even though it is not adjudicated, how do we draw the line and how do we inform police and how do we deal with it in the school environment. we have to make determineations as to when something should be entered into the database. that's not an easy decision. the clear line is when they're adjudicated. what do you do when they're not to that point yet? >> all right. thank you, congressman asa hutchison. a truck full of radioactive material was stolen. what could happen in the wrong hands? and vice president biden satisfying on what some call china's alarming aggression. plus the paul walker car crash. investigators believe he may have initially survived. people don't have to think about where their electricity comes from. they flip the switch-- and the light comes on. it's our job to make sure that it does. using natural gas this power plant can produce enough energy for about 600,000 homes. generating electricity that's cleaner
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story we're following in mexico. sources told us a stolen vehicle packed with dangerous radioactive materials has been found. officials say the container holding the chemical agent cobalt was found open and a special team is being deployed to the area. brian todd joins me now. what do we know? >> an update, jake. this is from juan, the hefd mexico's national committee for nuclear security. updating reporters. the truck that was stolen has been recovered. it has been found near a town north of mexico city. the container which had the cobalt 60 inside, the radioactive material, was not on the truck.
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however, the container was found about a half mile away. and a key point here, the container, according to mexican officials, did have cobalt 60 inside it. they recovered at least some of it. what they don't know is whether they recovered all of it. i think they're working on that to see if they have recovered all of the cobalt 60 inside that container. we're told by this gentleman of the national committee for nuclear security that radiation has been detected in the area. i'm not sure how high the intensity is but they are sending special teams in to examine the area. of course, test it out and maybe we'll get more information about the people who stole this as well. >> cobalt 60, this was used for cancer treatment in other medical procedures. very radioactive. potentially very dangerous. how serious potentially is this? >> this was potentially very serious. and remember, this truck was stolen early monday morning overnight into monday morning near mexico city. they have been looking for this
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truck for almost three days now. this got all the way up to the iaea in vienna, the innational atomic energy agency because mexico an authorities by law had to alert them and then they had to single out an alert. so there was a lot of concern. and the concern is that any security expert will tell you, and we interviewed several of them co-worker battle 60 in the hands of a terrorist can fairly easily be made into a dirty bomb. it looks like now that was not happening. it was maybe not even in danger of happening at any time. however, that was a concern for three days while this stuff was out there and they had not found it yet. >> absolutely terrifying. thank you so much. how is the u.s. fencing off china's power grab? vice president biden is in beijing tonight at a critical time when tensions between the u.s. and china are rising. china has alarmed its neighbors by creating an air defense identification zone that extends over japan's senkaku islands
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which china claims as its territory. what is the u.s. saying about it? >> we the united states are deeply concerned by the attempt to unilaterally change the status quo in the east china sea. >> let's bring in john hunltsman, the former ambassador to china he will served during the first two years of the obama administration. mr. ambassador, mr. governor, thank you. vice president's language specifically chosen, deeply concerned. is that strong enough? >> well, i think that's appropriate terminology. it was spoken in tokyo where coordinating a lot of what goes on in the region with our ally, japan, and also with korea to some extent is absolutely critical at this point. and the language used was appropriate given the circumstances. now it will all play out in beijing as he meets with the new leader of china who he got to know on a personal level when they were vice presidents together. she served as vice president before becoming president of
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china. so they have a preexisting relationship. it is actually quite unusual for the head of china to accord this amount of time to the vice president of the united states. so he's giving him a private dinner. he spent two hours with him in a by lateral meeting. all of that presumably is taking us in a direction that defines some parameters around the drama that's playing out in the east china sea. >> the u.s. has agreed to comply with china's air defense identification zone after it flew unarmed b-52s last week. some say that's the wrog message to send and it conveys weakness to the chinese. what do you think? >> the administration started out by doing right thing. they single out a couple of b-52s on a freedom of navigation mission which is what we should be doing in the aftermath of this announcement. that happened immediately. it was the right thing to do. i think there was a miscue in terms of commercial aviation. it was at odds with what japan was doing with their own commercial aviation sector. >> we are now as u.s. commercial
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aircraft entered this zone that china has declared is their air zone. we are saying this is a pan am flight. we don't mean you any harm. we are alerting them, who we are. >> they're responding to chinese air traffic controllers. a flight from tokyo to hong kong or tokyo to taipei. they're radioed by chinese air traffic controllers. they have to then respond by gig their coordinates and anything else the chinese might ask. >> japanese airlines are not doing that. >> we were not on the same page originally which shows a little daylight between us which should never be the case during a situation like this. >> one last thing. president biden talked to young chinese students waiting for visas at the u.s. embassy in beijing. take a listen. >> innovation can only occur where you can breathe free. challenge the government. challenge your teachers.
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challenge. >> what do you make of that? vice president biden saying challenge your government. >> these are points that america is known for. we have a name brand in the world, like it or not. my first trip to china was with ronald reagan. he said a lot of the same thing. george w. bush used to speak out a lot on religious freedom and liberty. these are important points for americans to make. i think he was right in making them. you have a twitter sphere in china. you have 100 million bloggers. this kind of thing circulates a bit. and it feeds into the reform mined tendencies thatle young chinese have. i think it was important that the vice president hit on these things. >> all right. former ambassador john huntsman. still to come, dozens of whales stranded in florida. and the prospects are not good.
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welcome back. it became clear today that one of president obama's top economic priorities for his second term is bridging the wage gap. he call for the raising of the federal minimum wage from $7.25 an hour. >> we know that there are airport workers and fast food workers and nurse assistants and
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retail salespeople who work their tails off and are still living at or barely above poverty. and that's why it is well past the time to raise a minimum wage that in real terms right now is below where it was when harry truman was in office. >> below where it was when harry truman was in office. is that true? the minimum wage today is below where harry truman was in office. can that possibly be true? the answer is yes. but only for a year of truman's presidency. let's break it down. according to the department of labor, when truman was in office, minimum wage was 75 cents an hour. in 1950, 75 cents an hour is about equi len to $7.27 in today's money. but in the two years that followed, that dropped to $6.74 and $6.61 respectively. meaning today's wage would
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actually be higher than it was back then. eisenhower, technically might have made for a stronger comparison. but we're picking nits really. a survivor of the new york train crash that killed four and injured 67 people is moving to sue the rail company for negligence. according to the passenger's attorney, state law requires such claims are filed against the railroad, not the train engineer who in this case allegedly nodded off as the train was going 82 miles an hour before it derailed. it was classified as highway hypnosis. he is not off the hook. he could face criminal charges. a massachusetts teenager has pleaded not guilty to charges he murder asked raped his algebra teacher. today 14-year-old phillip chism sat quietly with his hands cuffed in front of him. he is accused of killing his teacher with a box cutter in the bathroom at school. a handwritten note was found
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near her body that read, i hate you all. chism is being held without bail. his next court date is set january 30th. nigella lawson admits she used cocaine saying she used the drug during two periods in her life. three years ago when she said she felt terrorized by her most recent husband. years later she used cancer when she heard her husband's cancer was terminal. she called it an escape from his treatment. she said i did not have a drug problem. i had a life problem. dozens of beached whales. things are looking bleak for them. 41 short-finned whales strand in the florida. ten whales have died. four euthanized because of their poor condition. experts don't i don't know they ended up in the area but mass strandings have happened today typically around low tide and full and new moons.
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an attempt to herd them out failed. now rescuers are hoping they can swim out during high tide. new incriminating allegations about embattled mayor rob ford. police documents released today reveal he tried to buy the infamous video that allegedly shows him smoking crack cocaine. he offered $5,000 cash and a car to the gang member but that was rejected. this all happened months before police verified the video existed. a video that he claim he knew nothing about. what else can you tell us about these new documents? what else are you hearing? >> well, it is one of these things. an ongoing story. it is like christmas time for us in the media in toronto. this latest, the business the mayor actually, according to the documents did know about this video when he told us all along that he did not know about it. the fact that he tried to get it back. and there is even negotiations,
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as you mentioned, about the $5,000 and a car to get it back. so this story is just re hot here as it is around the world. but this is ground zero right here for the rob ford saga. >> wiretap recordings revealing that he may have bought heroin. you spoke to mayor ford tonight. what is his response? >> he laughs at that. again, a lot of this has not been test in the court and you know yourself, this is the kind of thing where they surveil and intercept conversations about people that are in gangs and it has not been verified or tested. so again we dome have mayor ford on an intercept talking about buying heroin. but again, there has been video pictures from surveillance from the air that shows he and the guy sandra who has been charged in this whole mess, and packages. so you can make the leap. and this whole story is about
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making a leap. wink, wink, look what we have. >> amazingly ford is still hanging in there in the polls. how is that possible with these headlines every day? >> it is just, i think that there will be books on that, jake, alone. i know that there will be movies and videos and people who would love to play them. hopefully mayor ford doesn't end up going down the same path. he is a likable guy. and no matter what they throw at him, i'm not one of the people that throws stuff at him. i've known him a long time. he has all kinds of character flaws but he is likable. right now as we speak, he is at a christmas party where he cannot get out the door because everybody wants to get pictures with him including people who are talking about running against him. that gives you an idea of the personality that is rob ford. >> we should appeal the size he has not been charged with any
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criminal wrongdoing. >> no. in fact all we have is his own admissions. you can see why he finally did admit it, because of these documents. the reality is about the admissions of smoking crack at least once and the drunken stupor and the drinking and perhaps driving. if he hnl admitted to that, he could deny all this. you could never present this as evidence. the thing, i talked to a homicide guy today. he said in his 30 years on the job, he has never seen a document like this. a, and b, certainly not leaked out like this or allowed to be released like this. there is big a political conspiracy behind this. let's not take ford off the hook. he has done some things wrong and we don't know where this is leading including to perhaps violence. but the arraign he is still at the 40% approval rating, or the 42%, all the polls show people want him as mayor is because
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they don't trust the other guys. the guys who spend this city into major debt. he is the slasher that has come in and tried to control it. and he is using that as his way of saying, look, they're out to get me. i've got flaws. i'll work on them but they're the real bad guys. >> why has not he been charged with anything? are the police building up an even greater case for some bigger crime we don't know about? or does he have the police in his hip pocket? what's the reason? >> i think that again, if this was in the united states, you know they would want to get the answer to that. this is not the united states. canada is a different deal. we had the g-20 here, you'll remember, and it was quite violent and all kinds of inquiries and nothing really came out of it. i think this is much the same. the big question is for chief williams sterling blair, you've spent millions of dollars. we did not know they had an airplane here to follow. and it has million-dollar camera on its arm and yet they're
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following around the chief magistrate, the guy who wants to cut the police budget and then coming up with all this stuff. they're leaking it to the media and it does sound bad. some of it must be true but how do you know? so again, until there's a criminal charge, a real criminal charge, a serious one. this story here today is talking about the mayor being extorted. people are wanting a $150,000 from him. for this video. that alone should be a criminal charge. it is a real head scratcher. i think it comes back to the political will to try embarrass him and have the office without having to run and deal with his 40% support which there is some really good solid conservative candidates here i would love to have. >> it is a mystery, joe. thank you for joining us. it's a movie! stay tuned. still to come, new details about the death of paul walker. investigators believe the star may have initially survived the
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we have new details about paul walker's deadly car crash. he may have initially survived the crash but died moments later due to a combination of injuries from the impact and the resulting fire. kyung lah has more. >> reporter: the autopsy report helps explain what we've seen on surveillance video obtained by cnn. you can see the moment of impact. a light pole and then a tree fall. the porsche hit so hard, it snapped the concrete and rebar pole like a match stick. about 60 seconds later, a full minute, the first signs of black smoke when the porsche burst into flame. the autopsy shows the driver died of multiple traumatic injuries. mr. rodas died of multiple injuries and thermal injuries suggesting he was alive in the moments before the porsche was engulfed in fire. >> hopefully it was quick and he did not feel anything. >> he said if i die from speed, don't cry because i was smiling.
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>> walker lived as he died inside the that years cars featured in his movie franchise, the fast and the fewerious. universal pictures announced they are shutting down as they assess all options to move forward with the franchise. speed was a factor in the car crash but continue to search for other contributing causes. the 2005 carerra gt is a rare super scar. only 1,300 were made. the amateur driver is one of those owners. he took me down a ride in the canyon in the car noting as a sports car driver, there is simply no vehicle in america that matches the thrill and nothing potentially more deadly. in some respects, are you afraid of this car? >> yeah, you really have to be with this car with all the power it has. you have to be reserved and
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restrain yourself. it is kind of taming a wild animal. to be to be a little afraid of it. >> the autopsy difference between two victims, paul walker and the driver, roger rodas, does that mean they died in different ways? >> reporter: not necessarily and here's why. we got a little clarification from the coroner. the autopsies were done by two separate doctors. it may just be semantics. the doctor who perform rodas' autopsy simply chose to put it all together as multiple trauma and within that assume that thermal trauma could be part of it. the other doctor was more specific. we may know when the full autopsy, the specifics come out in weeks and we should know about the toxicology report in six to eight weeks. >> i'm behind you. it looks like there is still a
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fan presence there. how long will that material be allowed to remain there? >> reporter: it is really extraordinary. if you think that this happened on saturday and you look. there has been a steady stream of people. i'm standing in the lane of traffic that has remain open. and the memorial that you see here, the candles and the flowers, they've continued to grow, to be replaced. fans have continue to come. santa clarita, the city we're standing in has committed to this saying they want this to be here. he was not just a movie star but also a local boy. as far as an official funeral, the family handle been very specific. no date has been set yet. we do understand, jake, that one of the co-stars is in close contact with paul walker's family to help plan this. this is going to be something for the community as well as for hollywood. >> yeah. he had a 14-year-old daughter. very sad. thank you, kyung lah. let's check in with anderson cooper. he has a look ahead. how are you? >> i'm doing well.
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a story you cover which i'm obsessed about, much more on toronto mayor rob ford's court documents released containing details of a wiretap. they're unbelievable. suggest the mayor made attempts to buy a video of him smoking crack and it details his relationship with his violent drug gang will we'll talk to robin doolittle. and the 360 exclusive. the first interview with the familiar live olivia wise, while battling cancer, she skyrocketed to fame. she died just last week. her mom and sister want the world to remember her and to continue the fight against cancer. they've created a fun for kids with cancer. all at the top of the hour. >> sounds great. >> only the's money and power, a fate over farrah fawcett. a high power courtroom battle is underway over the andy warhol paining.
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ryan o'neill boyfriend but never husband said the paining is his. but her alma mater is accusing him of stealing the painting and say the belongs to the university of texas. >> reporter: it is a hollywood custody battle unlikele others. a fight over this portrait. an original andy warhol of the late hollywood actress farrah fawcett. fawcett's former lover ryan o'neill who lived when the actress for years said the portrait belongs to him. the papering at the center of the trial hangs above his head at his malibu beach house as seen here in the reality show, the o'neills. but her alma mater, the university of austin at texas is saying it is theirs, that fawcett left it to him. >> is his story believable? that will be crucial. we're only hearing about this through the experience of ryan
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o'neal. >> reporter: the 72-year-old o'neal took stand on monday saying he removed the paining a week or more after she died from her condo. ♪ o'neal said the portrait of the iconic charlie's angels star was above his bed when fawcett caught him between sheets with a 25-year-old woman which led to their break-up in 1997. he said he removed young friend was uncomfortable with for ra staring at her. the portrait as scene in "chasi "chasi "chasing ferrah" is one of two and the other on display at the university's art museum leading the lawyer to believe the suit is money motivated. >> the university of texas worth over $50 billion, aren't they happy? this is what the key thing is.
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>> reporter: o'neil just wants to pass down the hair loom to their son redmond. >> ryan o'neil, if anything, has that argument that this is for their son, and that is powerful. that is priceless motivation. >> still to come, decorations and dog attacks. a white house christmas party next. brap before using her new bank of america credit card, which rewards her for responsibly managing her card balance. before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than her minimum payment on time each month. tracey got the bankamericard better balance rewards credit card, which fits nicely with everything else in life she has to balance. that's the benefit of responsibility.
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. christmas at the white house and at least one way kind of just like christmas at your house. today in keeping with tradition, first lady michelle obama hosted a tree decorating party for military families from across the country. the festivities included old and new ornaments and 24 christmas trees. the first lady brought the white house dogs, beau and the new puppy sunny out for the occasion and that's when they literally ran into trouble. it seems the excitement of the season was obama's newest dog.
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sunny was too on mated. the small girl took a step back from the playful puppy and took a tumble. the other guests were concerned and fortunately, she was fine. she popped up to continue in the fun. sounds just like my house. we'll be right back. [ paper rustles, outdoor sounds ] ♪ [ male announcer ] laura's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern on the lead, how faith helped him lose 65 pounds and how his congregation dropped 250 pounds. "ac 360" starts now. jake, thanks. good evening everyone. breaking news, somebody may have the makings of a radio active bomb. the cobalt 60 have been found but there is no accounts the content has been accounted for. the last time this stuff got loose, people got sicked and died. first, a mess that is affecting millions tonight, a winter storm is starting to haerm the country's midsection as ugly as it's getting, what makes it worse is how quickly and drastically this got going. a day ago spring-like in the mountains midwest and it was 80 in dallas and it will be 40 degrees colder in